Posts by Boeing Stratofortress

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Throwing a wrench in child baptism.

by runForever in

1 corinthians 7:14 tells us: "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.".

so the sanctification of children of "christians" depends on the holiness of their parents not the "baptism" of young children.

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Boeing Stratofortress

Blondie, I'd like to look up some of the references you posted, so I can show it to some JDubs.

Forgive my ignorance, but how would I translate this (for example):

w56 5/15

...is it the 1956 Watchtower, from May 15?

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Who compared the KH donation arrangement to that of a never ending mortgage?

by Boeing Stratofortress in

it was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but i cannot find it.

it was a great rant & well thought out.

it basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.. i'd really like to find that person's reply, so i can use the same logic with some of my family members.

Boeing Stratofortress

Yessss! Bingo.

thanks a bunch!

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Who compared the KH donation arrangement to that of a never ending mortgage?

by Boeing Stratofortress in

it was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but i cannot find it.

it was a great rant & well thought out.

it basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.. i'd really like to find that person's reply, so i can use the same logic with some of my family members.

Boeing Stratofortress

It was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but I cannot find it. It was a great rant & well thought out. It basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.

I'd really like to find that person's reply, so I can use the same logic with some of my family members. If anyone can cut/paste it, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks.

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

Boeing Stratofortress

I'm willing to bet that you could find more affordable services doing an internet search for India. There are plenty of highly qualified 'techies' there, who, like Indian doctors & hospitals, charge much less than their western counterparts.

Also, I think you would do well to advertise, on THIS site, that you seek 'awake' JWs who are in the upper ranks. Offer them a way to contact you via private message, or create a very basic website just for that purpose. Cedar's "JW Survey" site is a good example, though your site need not be as sophisticated as his. Eventually, you (we) might want to modify the site to resemble the JW.ORG site as previously mentioned. But, your first priority needs to be the recruiting of JW spies.

Oh, and the very fact that I'm being candid about this, is part of the psy-ops. You know they read this stuff, so if they know a 'guerilla' campaign is in the planning stages, they will be all the more paranoid, and suspicious of one another. Your (our) job is to ensure that the actual identities of these moles remains strictly confidential. In fact, you might only get to know them by their aliases. That's fine, and you'll want to protect your identity as well. As a college student, you may have read about the Watergate scandal, and the source known as 'Deepthroat.' Same kind of stuff, except you're not commiting treason. Well, not the kind that'll land you in Leavenworth- LoL.

Godspeed young man. Maybe you can be the JW equivalent of Neo, from the Matrix.

"Mr. Aaaaanderson"

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

Boeing Stratofortress

Hacking is an excellent idea. I'm not able to send you PMs with specific info, but this might give you some general guidance: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/01/16/hacker_s_list_is_a_website_for_hiring_hackers.html

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

Boeing Stratofortress

Quote:

"Imagine if a group of awake JW's would work their way to the top"

The top of what? The WTBTS of New York, or the top of the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses?""

As to the first point, you could probably find 'awake' JWs who are ALREADY HOLDING senior positions. Consider the various leaked videos, letters, and publications which have surfaced. The "Flock" book being a good example. Now ask yourselves, WHO has been leaking these documents? NOT the lower ranking JWs, I assure you. THESE are the ones who can infiltrate easily, without waiting 'years' to advance through the ranks.

As to the second point: "on top of what?"

You raise the question of leadership, and who is ultimately in charge. I think that's a valid point, yet the WB&TS is very much a hierchy, as was admitted by the Watchtower's own lawyers. It's that very hierchy which allowed the California court to hold the WT accountable for allowing pedophiles to roam unsupervised during 'service.' OF COURSE, the leadership will try to hide, deny culpability, point fingers, and throw others under the bus. It's no different than what happened when the FBI infiltrated the Italian Mafia in the US, or the Miami drug cartels in the 1980s. True, none of the informants in these cases 'rose to the top,' but they created enough chaos so as to force these bosses, and families, to turn on each other, hence splintering, and greatly weakening these organizations to the point where they are all but insignicant. The movie 'Goodfellas' gives a historically accurate view of this. The WT organization is similarly involved in extortion by stealing money from congregants, and using it for it's property scams, and the many pedophile lawsuits. Sam Herd and the GB even look like Mafia dons.

Bottom line is....YES you can put the heat on this criminal organization. When they feel the heat, they will come out of the shadows and bring each other down. If you just throw up your hands and say, "but, it's haaaard," then you'll NEVER see any change---at least not for many years. It's your (our) choice.

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

Boeing Stratofortress

Use a logo such as: "JWt.org." The "t" meaning TRUTH. Use the exact same font/color/style as the JW.org logo.

Once you set up the website, I think it'd be great if it included printable tracts, which could be left outside Kingdom & Assembly halls. Inside these tracts, include photos of the various pedophiles from the Silentlambs website. Furthermore, I'm sure you could also find a print shop (Kinkos) to help you make some JW pedophile "trading cards." Put the photos of these sick bastards on one side, and put their 'stats' on the flip-side. Make them available for order on your website, and I'm sure they'll get passed around.

Ever hear about psych warefare, or psy-ops? It was used extensively during WW2 and the Cold War. That's exactly what this is, and with the prevalence of social media, I'd say that you (we) actually have the upper hand in this fight, insofar as turning potential recruits, or young doubters, away from this cult. Without the younger demographic, or fresh recruits from the outside, the WB&TS is living on borrowed time. Let's speed up this process!

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I have a serious problem

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

Boeing Stratofortress

Join the Freemasons, Elks, or some other fraternal organization. Those guys have each others' back. Have a couple of them show up at Brother Douchbag's door with some 'words of advice.' That'll keep him looking over his shoulder, and get him to back the f off.

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I have a serious problem

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

Boeing Stratofortress

Also...this book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover. It helped me tremendously in similar (not quite as critical) situation with my JW wife. Had I not changed my paradigm in dealing with my wife, then I'm sure it WOULD have gotten to a critical stage, whereas now it's like a 'no fly' zone-- she starts $&@#ing with me and I promptly shoot it down. Again, that book. Also, another one called "Hold on to Your N.U.T.S." is supposed to be good, though I haven't read it.

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I have a serious problem

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

Boeing Stratofortress

What he said. I'd try to get a letter with the letterhead of a well known law office, such as the Zalkin firm. Or Rick Simons. Both firms are making names for themselves in the area of JW pedophile lawsuits. I believe that if the elders were to call the Watchtower legal dept with either of those names (Zalkin/Simons), as they would probably be required to do according to their BOE letters, that there would be a nervous pause, followed by..."uh, just comply with the demands of the letter." That's my two cents. Anyone else wanna chime in on that strategy?